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Radfem analysis of Firefly

Aka "Inara is raped! Zoe is raped! Kaylee is raped! Joss's wife is raped!"

Ah, radicals. Giving feminism a bad name since (insert year here).

From James Nicoll; funny comment here.

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pompe
Mar. 25th, 2008 09:49 pm (UTC)
Not that I care much about Whedon and his IMO overrated TV shows and movies (and I certainly don't think they are notably progressive) but that analysis of our feminist sister seems rather far out. Can't the rad-fems present a more convincing case than relating to how a ship's captain tells someone to shut up?

(Which was what I thought a good deal of the time while watching Serenity, by the way. Pleeese Mr Whedon, make them shut up...

http://pompe.livejournal.com/72004.html
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nekomata
Mar. 25th, 2008 10:57 pm (UTC)
"If you are pro-prostitution then you are not a feminist."


My favorite quote~! This whole entry was just sad... Who has that kind of time!?!?
linguafranca
Mar. 26th, 2008 12:51 am (UTC)
*huge eyeroll*

I didn't get past the "Shut up" part. Yawn.
apokalypsetest
Mar. 26th, 2008 02:42 am (UTC)
Well, posts like that one - and the existence of people who write them shows how civilised we are today: We can afford to have people that have enough time to spend it with such pointless analyses of pop culture...

As far as I can see for people like her males are at best tolerable. Scary that.
mindstalk
Mar. 27th, 2008 06:45 am (UTC)
Oh, in a later comment she says she hates the male gender.

There's also this funky comment.

Edited at 2008-03-27 06:46 am (UTC)
apokalypsetest
Mar. 27th, 2008 01:44 pm (UTC)
Wow, reading this stuff is really like looking into a brain that exists perpendicular to reality.
mindstalk
Mar. 27th, 2008 02:37 pm (UTC)
Sexist!

You know, I just looked at your icon for the first time. I mean, I'd known it was Cthulhoid, but I never really *looked*. How appropriate it seems right now.

Edited at 2008-03-27 02:37 pm (UTC)
mlc23
Mar. 26th, 2008 12:55 pm (UTC)
Well that was good for a laugh!
tempter
Mar. 26th, 2008 09:31 pm (UTC)
I wish I could laugh at that! The author apparently took herself seriously, and it's kind of unsettling that anyone would seriously think this way.

It's a little like laughing at the idea of someone like Mike Huckabee as a presidential candidate, until you realize he was actually getting some 10-20% of the Republican vote.
mindstalk
Mar. 27th, 2008 06:32 am (UTC)
Hey, she approved a bunch of comments. I wonder if some have become an exercise in Sokalling, seeing what they can past her screening policies. Others, I don't know. Hey married woman, how about spousal ludeness?

...actually, looking at that one's interests and userpics, I suspect that very post is such a Sokal-troll.

Edited at 2008-03-27 06:37 am (UTC)
she_flies
Mar. 27th, 2008 12:14 pm (UTC)
hello. yeah that was me :)

a fellow browncoat put up a challenge to see who could write a post that was sarcastic but subtle enough to get past the screen (the woman who posted doesn't allow oppositional thought to be put up on her site - while writing very inflammatory entries - very nice). My bit of subtle irony (okay there were a couple case) is that I used an icon of Seung Mina who is a strong, yet scantily clad fighter from a vid game (there was a bit of ranting about strong women being dressed as sex objects).

so, yes, it WAS tongue-in-cheek.
mindstalk
Mar. 27th, 2008 02:36 pm (UTC)
Hah, you did find this place to reply to me... glad to hear it, especially given our common interests.

Yeah, my sequences was something like
* wow, she's raving and dumb and radfemness wraps around to warped Christianity. I must tell everyone I know.
* Nah, James's thread is getting too long, I'll just tell my friends.
* You know, now that I've brought up the concept of Sokalling... is that a radfem icon? And was 'lude' over the top? Let's see if the journal and profile match the content.
* Journal, eh. Profile... dancing in underwear? Skinny dipping? Flirting? UU? -- okay, that could go either way, but I'm used to sex-pos ones. Sex? Firefly? And look, firefly userpics. And cog sci (personal bias), and Venn diagrams?
** Could a pro-logic, pro-sex, Hofstadter and Firefly fan be swept up to write that screed naturally? I believe people are complex, and anything is possible... but it's not how I'd bet. Let's ask! Obliquely, because allecto allegedly checks the journals of commenters for respectful attitudes.

And once I had the idea, things like "except to marry Wash, but that's not important" seemed suspicious.

Well done!
she_flies
Mar. 27th, 2008 07:40 pm (UTC)
thank you!
I am surprised that she didn't seem to do a background check on me because my profile is a bit of a give-a-way. I would also have been suspicious of the post in the first place because her entry is months old and the only folks posting to it right now are Firefly fans.

I got replies telling me how stupid I was, but allecto never unscreened them so they exist only in my email.

I will friend you and then you can friend me and you will see the rest of my journal :) If you look back just a couple of entries you will see one that is (tangentally) about Bloomington :) You can join my club of nuttiness because you seem like good people - and more people from Bloomington on my flist is gooood :)
she_flies
Mar. 27th, 2008 07:45 pm (UTC)
oh I forgot to add - thank you for being one of all of like 4 people to have noted my subtle use of the 'chill pill' in the post. That one apparently went over a lot of people's heads.

qualudes, folks....qualudes....
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